app01 Tue, 06 Oct 2026 02:16:56 +0000 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) The Complete Sinner's Guide - Episodes Tagged with “Torment” https://completesinners.fireside.fm/tags/torment Sat, 05 Jun 2021 20:00:00 -0500 Our mission at CSG is simply this: Take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the ends of the Earth and make disciples of all nations through the preaching of God's Word (Matthew 28:19)!!! During that journey, we are searching through every page of the Bible in our pursuit to understand the TRUTH of what God Himself has revealed: about Himself, and about us, His creation. We invite special guests dedicated to their particular fields of study on the podcast, to give us their perspectives on current and historical questions and issues the Church as a whole as faced throughout the centuries! We ask the experts the questions and invite you to weigh in on the conversation with OPEN PHONES on nearly EVERY EPISODE! In other words, The whole CSG community is examining ALL PERSPECTIVES of the claims made about what God's Word "really says" (Acts 17:11), discerning them, to get to the bottom of God's truth! All of our content and resources are 💯% FREE as we believe the Gospel should be preached to all FREE OF CHARGE so we invite you to listen, weigh in, and share this ministry with loved ones! God bless you all and stay tuned...we're just getting started learning about The Triune God! en-us episodic A Podcast Dedicated to evangelism and discovering as well as sharing Biblical truth! Tyler Fowler Our mission at CSG is simply this: Take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the ends of the Earth and make disciples of all nations through the preaching of God's Word (Matthew 28:19)!!! During that journey, we are searching through every page of the Bible in our pursuit to understand the TRUTH of what God Himself has revealed: about Himself, and about us, His creation. We invite special guests dedicated to their particular fields of study on the podcast, to give us their perspectives on current and historical questions and issues the Church as a whole as faced throughout the centuries! We ask the experts the questions and invite you to weigh in on the conversation with OPEN PHONES on nearly EVERY EPISODE! In other words, The whole CSG community is examining ALL PERSPECTIVES of the claims made about what God's Word "really says" (Acts 17:11), discerning them, to get to the bottom of God's truth! All of our content and resources are 💯% FREE as we believe the Gospel should be preached to all FREE OF CHARGE so we invite you to listen, weigh in, and share this ministry with loved ones! God bless you all and stay tuned...we're just getting started learning about The Triune God! no Christianity, Christian Podcast, Apologetics, Evangelism, Theology, Christian Answers Tyler Fowler info@completesinners.com Episode 51: The Human Soul: Mortal or Immortal? A Biblical Examination with Chris Date https://completesinners.fireside.fm/51 063970a2-52f1-4b17-9427-95754e0a1b3c Sat, 05 Jun 2021 20:00:00 -0500 Tyler Fowler full Tyler Fowler On this episode of CSG we are discussing the human soul! What is the Biblical understanding of what we call the “soul”, is the soul immortal and what are the implications of the soul’s immortality (or mortality) on Judgment Day?? I’ve asked Chris Date, from Rethinking Hell, to join us again on CSG to help give some biblical answer’s to these questions and more! 56:06 no <p>On this episode of CSG we are discussing the human soul! What is the Biblical understanding of what we call the “soul”, is the soul immortal and what are the implications of the soul’s immortality (or mortality) on Judgment Day?? I’ve asked Chris Date, from Rethinking Hell, to join us again on CSG to help give some biblical answer’s to these questions and more!</p> <p>Passages from both Old and New Testament books as well as extrabiblical literature are examined to develope a more complete understanding of what ancient Jews and the disciples of Jesus Christ understood to be the truth concerning the fate of the righetous and the wicked, after in "the world to come"! Some of the texts expounded in this epidsode include:</p> <p>Genesis 19<br> Isaiah 24, 25, 26, 27<br> Matthew 10:28, 25:46<br> Luke 12:4-5, 20:35-36<br> Romans 6:5-9<br> 1 Timothy 6:16<br> 2 Peter 2:4-6<br> Revelation 14:9-11, 18:1-24, 19:1-3<br> 2 Esdras (4th Ezra) 2:8-14</p> <p>Chris and I also explore what the Bible means by the terms "immortal", "life", &amp; "death", as well as dig into concepts of Greek mythology like "Tartarus"! Eternal Concious Torment arguments are examined as well and addressed in this episode! </p> <p>For anyone interested in the soul or conditional immortality, this is a great introductory episode to begin your study on this topic! MUCH MORE needs to be said and is in this episode but, Lord willing, God will arrange things in such a way that we will be blessed to continue this discussion in a part 2 episode or with a positve case for the Eternal Concious Torment perspective!</p> <p>A big thanks to Chris for participating and if you all are interested in more of his videos you can find his YouTube channel here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell</a></p> <p>A.W. Pink quote from "Eternal Punishment":<br> “...Gehenna is the place in which both soul and body are destroyed. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna" (Matt. 19:28 [sic]). This passage is most important, for more than any other it enables us to gather the real scope of this term. The fact that the "soul" as well as the body is destroyed there, is proof positive that our Lord was not referring to the valley of Hinnom. So, too, the fact that the "body" is destroyed there, makes it certain that "Gehenna"is not another name for "Hades." In pondering this solemn verse we should remember that "destroy" does not mean to annihilate. Some have raised a quibble over the fact that Christ did not here expressly say that God would "destroy both soul and body in hell," but merely said "Fear Him which is able to. " This admits of a simple and conclusive reply. Surely it is apparent on the surface that Christ is not here predicating of God a power which none can deny, but which, notwithstanding, He will never exert! He was not simply affirming the omnipotence of God, but uttering a solemn threat which will yet be executed. That such was His meaning is established beyond the shadow of doubt when we compare Matthew 10:28 with the parallel passage in Luke 12:5: "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, fear him." This threat we know will be fulfilled.”</p> <p>Charles Hodge quote from his Systematic Theology Vol. 3 p. 759:<br> "If the Bible says that the sufferings of the lost are to be everlasting, they are to endure forever, unless it can be shown either that the soul is not immortal or that the Scriptures elsewhere teach that those sufferings are to come to an end."</p> hell, immortal, mortal, soul, spirit, heaven, gehenna, satan, conditional, ECT, everlasting, life, death, resurrection, second death, afterlife, torment, tartarus, lake of fire, smoke, forever On this episode of CSG we are discussing the human soul! What is the Biblical understanding of what we call the “soul”, is the soul immortal and what are the implications of the soul’s immortality (or mortality) on Judgment Day?? I’ve asked Chris Date, from Rethinking Hell, to join us again on CSG to help give some biblical answer’s to these questions and more!

Passages from both Old and New Testament books as well as extrabiblical literature are examined to develope a more complete understanding of what ancient Jews and the disciples of Jesus Christ understood to be the truth concerning the fate of the righetous and the wicked, after in "the world to come"! Some of the texts expounded in this epidsode include:

Genesis 19
Isaiah 24, 25, 26, 27
Matthew 10:28, 25:46
Luke 12:4-5, 20:35-36
Romans 6:5-9
1 Timothy 6:16
2 Peter 2:4-6
Revelation 14:9-11, 18:1-24, 19:1-3
2 Esdras (4th Ezra) 2:8-14

Chris and I also explore what the Bible means by the terms "immortal", "life", & "death", as well as dig into concepts of Greek mythology like "Tartarus"! Eternal Concious Torment arguments are examined as well and addressed in this episode!

For anyone interested in the soul or conditional immortality, this is a great introductory episode to begin your study on this topic! MUCH MORE needs to be said and is in this episode but, Lord willing, God will arrange things in such a way that we will be blessed to continue this discussion in a part 2 episode or with a positve case for the Eternal Concious Torment perspective!

A big thanks to Chris for participating and if you all are interested in more of his videos you can find his YouTube channel here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell

A.W. Pink quote from "Eternal Punishment":
“...Gehenna is the place in which both soul and body are destroyed. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna" (Matt. 19:28 [sic]). This passage is most important, for more than any other it enables us to gather the real scope of this term. The fact that the "soul" as well as the body is destroyed there, is proof positive that our Lord was not referring to the valley of Hinnom. So, too, the fact that the "body" is destroyed there, makes it certain that "Gehenna"is not another name for "Hades." In pondering this solemn verse we should remember that "destroy" does not mean to annihilate. Some have raised a quibble over the fact that Christ did not here expressly say that God would "destroy both soul and body in hell," but merely said "Fear Him which is able to. " This admits of a simple and conclusive reply. Surely it is apparent on the surface that Christ is not here predicating of God a power which none can deny, but which, notwithstanding, He will never exert! He was not simply affirming the omnipotence of God, but uttering a solemn threat which will yet be executed. That such was His meaning is established beyond the shadow of doubt when we compare Matthew 10:28 with the parallel passage in Luke 12:5: "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, fear him." This threat we know will be fulfilled.”

Charles Hodge quote from his Systematic Theology Vol. 3 p. 759:
"If the Bible says that the sufferings of the lost are to be everlasting, they are to endure forever, unless it can be shown either that the soul is not immortal or that the Scriptures elsewhere teach that those sufferings are to come to an end."

]]> On this episode of CSG we are discussing the human soul! What is the Biblical understanding of what we call the “soul”, is the soul immortal and what are the implications of the soul’s immortality (or mortality) on Judgment Day?? I’ve asked Chris Date, from Rethinking Hell, to join us again on CSG to help give some biblical answer’s to these questions and more!

Passages from both Old and New Testament books as well as extrabiblical literature are examined to develope a more complete understanding of what ancient Jews and the disciples of Jesus Christ understood to be the truth concerning the fate of the righetous and the wicked, after in "the world to come"! Some of the texts expounded in this epidsode include:

Genesis 19
Isaiah 24, 25, 26, 27
Matthew 10:28, 25:46
Luke 12:4-5, 20:35-36
Romans 6:5-9
1 Timothy 6:16
2 Peter 2:4-6
Revelation 14:9-11, 18:1-24, 19:1-3
2 Esdras (4th Ezra) 2:8-14

Chris and I also explore what the Bible means by the terms "immortal", "life", & "death", as well as dig into concepts of Greek mythology like "Tartarus"! Eternal Concious Torment arguments are examined as well and addressed in this episode!

For anyone interested in the soul or conditional immortality, this is a great introductory episode to begin your study on this topic! MUCH MORE needs to be said and is in this episode but, Lord willing, God will arrange things in such a way that we will be blessed to continue this discussion in a part 2 episode or with a positve case for the Eternal Concious Torment perspective!

A big thanks to Chris for participating and if you all are interested in more of his videos you can find his YouTube channel here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell

A.W. Pink quote from "Eternal Punishment":
“...Gehenna is the place in which both soul and body are destroyed. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna" (Matt. 19:28 [sic]). This passage is most important, for more than any other it enables us to gather the real scope of this term. The fact that the "soul" as well as the body is destroyed there, is proof positive that our Lord was not referring to the valley of Hinnom. So, too, the fact that the "body" is destroyed there, makes it certain that "Gehenna"is not another name for "Hades." In pondering this solemn verse we should remember that "destroy" does not mean to annihilate. Some have raised a quibble over the fact that Christ did not here expressly say that God would "destroy both soul and body in hell," but merely said "Fear Him which is able to. " This admits of a simple and conclusive reply. Surely it is apparent on the surface that Christ is not here predicating of God a power which none can deny, but which, notwithstanding, He will never exert! He was not simply affirming the omnipotence of God, but uttering a solemn threat which will yet be executed. That such was His meaning is established beyond the shadow of doubt when we compare Matthew 10:28 with the parallel passage in Luke 12:5: "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, fear him." This threat we know will be fulfilled.”

Charles Hodge quote from his Systematic Theology Vol. 3 p. 759:
"If the Bible says that the sufferings of the lost are to be everlasting, they are to endure forever, unless it can be shown either that the soul is not immortal or that the Scriptures elsewhere teach that those sufferings are to come to an end."

]]> Episode 37: A Discussion About Hell Pt. 2 "Eternal Conscious Torment" https://completesinners.fireside.fm/37 bbd18a51-f775-410e-9b1d-f58c7921e25c Thu, 21 Jan 2021 21:00:00 -0600 Tyler Fowler full Tyler Fowler For part 2 of this discussion with "Rethinking Hell" host Chris Date and "Burns' Eye View" host Ross Burns, we switch gears and Ross presents a positive case for ECT! We primarily focus on Scripture found in the Book of Revelation Chapters 14, 19, and 20 in this segment, and both sides present their case for their view! Great ending to an even better discussion all around! 56:53 no <p>For part 2 of this discussion with "Rethinking Hell" host Chris Date and "Burns' Eye View" host Ross Burns, we switch gears and Ross presents a positive case for ECT! We primarily focus on Scripture found in the Book of Revelation, and both sides present their case! Great ending to an even better discussion all around!</p> <p>A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!</p> <p>More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:<br> Facebook- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview</a><br> Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_</a><br> <a href="https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi" rel="nofollow noopener">https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi</a>...<br> MeWe- <a href="https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3" rel="nofollow noopener">https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3</a><br> Email- <a href="mailto:BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com</a></p> <p>More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:</p> <ul> <li>Pick up a copy of one of Chris' books here: <a href="https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A" rel="nofollow noopener">https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A</a></li> <li>RethinkingHell.com</li> <li>RethinkingHellConference.com</li> <li><a href="https://bit.ly/3gjphk2" rel="nofollow noopener">https://bit.ly/3gjphk2</a></li> <li><a href="mailto:chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com" rel="nofollow noopener">chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com</a> </li> </ul> hell, rich man, Lazarus, Jesus, resurrection, glorified bodies, immortality, conditionalism, eternal, conscious, torment, lake of fire, Revelation, apocalypse, For part 2 of this discussion with "Rethinking Hell" host Chris Date and "Burns' Eye View" host Ross Burns, we switch gears and Ross presents a positive case for ECT! We primarily focus on Scripture found in the Book of Revelation, and both sides present their case! Great ending to an even better discussion all around!

A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!

More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:
Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview
Twitter- https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_
https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi...
MeWe- https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3
Email- BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com

More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:

]]> For part 2 of this discussion with "Rethinking Hell" host Chris Date and "Burns' Eye View" host Ross Burns, we switch gears and Ross presents a positive case for ECT! We primarily focus on Scripture found in the Book of Revelation, and both sides present their case! Great ending to an even better discussion all around!

A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!

More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:
Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview
Twitter- https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_
https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi...
MeWe- https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3
Email- BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com

More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:

]]> Episode 36: A Discussion About Hell Pt. 1 "Conditional Immortality" https://completesinners.fireside.fm/36 e64c3468-1331-40e0-aa2b-1dcac10e49b0 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 18:45:00 -0600 Tyler Fowler full Tyler Fowler Host of "Rethinking Hell, Chris Date AND host of "Burns' Eye View", Ross Burns join us on this week's episode of CSG! We dig in to the foundation's of conditional immortality in part 1 of this two part discussion! 56:40 no <p>Host of "Rethinking Hell, Chris Date AND host of "Burns' Eye View", Ross Burns join us on this week's episode of CSG! We dig in to the foundation's of conditional immortality in part 1 of this two part discussion! </p> <p>Michael and myself join in on the chat as we talk through the difference between "immortality" &amp; "eternal/enduring life", church history, the traditional view of hell, and what "death" means from both perspectives!</p> <p>A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!</p> <p>More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:<br> Facebook- <a href="https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview</a><br> Twitter- <a href="https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_" rel="nofollow noopener">https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_</a><br> <a href="https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi" rel="nofollow noopener">https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi</a>...<br> MeWe- <a href="https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3" rel="nofollow noopener">https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3</a><br> Email- <a href="mailto:BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noopener">BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com</a></p> <p>More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:</p> <ul> <li>Pick up a copy of one of Chris' books here: <a href="https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A" rel="nofollow noopener">https://amzn.to/2Qgos0A</a></li> <li>RethinkingHell.com</li> <li>RethinkingHellConference.com</li> <li><a href="https://bit.ly/3gjphk2" rel="nofollow noopener">https://bit.ly/3gjphk2</a></li> <li><a href="mailto:chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com" rel="nofollow noopener">chrisdate@rethinkinghell.com</a> </li> </ul> hell, rich man, Lazarus, Jesus, resurrection, glorified bodies, immortality, conditionalism, eternal, conscious, torment, lake of fire Host of "Rethinking Hell, Chris Date AND host of "Burns' Eye View", Ross Burns join us on this week's episode of CSG! We dig in to the foundation's of conditional immortality in part 1 of this two part discussion!

Michael and myself join in on the chat as we talk through the difference between "immortality" & "eternal/enduring life", church history, the traditional view of hell, and what "death" means from both perspectives!

A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!

More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:
Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview
Twitter- https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_
https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi...
MeWe- https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3
Email- BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com

More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:

]]> Host of "Rethinking Hell, Chris Date AND host of "Burns' Eye View", Ross Burns join us on this week's episode of CSG! We dig in to the foundation's of conditional immortality in part 1 of this two part discussion!

Michael and myself join in on the chat as we talk through the difference between "immortality" & "eternal/enduring life", church history, the traditional view of hell, and what "death" means from both perspectives!

A big thanks to Chris and Ross for taking the time out to drop by and chat for a bit! Definitnley had to break this one down to a two parter with so much info packed into an hour!

More on Ross Burns and Burns' Eye View here:
Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/burnseyeview
Twitter- https://twitter.com/Burns_Eye_View_
https://parler.com/profile/Burnseyevi...
MeWe- https://mewe.com/i/rossburns3
Email- BurnsEyeView1517@gmail.com

More on Chris Date and Rethinking Hell here:

]]> Episode 25: Eternal Conscious Torment https://completesinners.fireside.fm/25 5b7cf9e8-5c1e-490b-a185-f8e5a6729fcf Wed, 08 Jul 2020 23:00:00 -0500 Tyler Fowler full Tyler Fowler Join your hosts Tyler Fowler and Noah Chelliah with special guest Ross Burns as the three set down to discuss Hell and whether or not the lost will be consciously tormented forever! 53:23 no <p>Join your hosts Tyler Fowler and Noah Chelliah with special guest Ross Burns as the three set down to discuss Hell and whether or not the lost will be consciously tormented forever! </p> Eternal Conscious Torment, Hell, Hades, Gehenna, Sheol, Torment, Immortality, Jesus, Christ, Lost, Saved Join your hosts Tyler Fowler and Noah Chelliah with special guest Ross Burns as the three set down to discuss Hell and whether or not the lost will be consciously tormented forever!

]]> Join your hosts Tyler Fowler and Noah Chelliah with special guest Ross Burns as the three set down to discuss Hell and whether or not the lost will be consciously tormented forever!

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